wizard
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| posted on 6/9/2020 at 08:26 PM |
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Last Bidder Cannot made the Bids Even?
I am confused.
The original Canadian Rule stated that if the last to bid was leading on the scorepad he/she could not make the bids even. Nobody liked this rule and
nobody played games using it. Consequently, the rule was watered down to only apply on the last hand of the game.
Now we have the German game available and a lot of players love the "no even bids" rule. This dichotomy confounds me. Can someone explain what is
going on here?
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verona
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| posted on 7/9/2020 at 02:31 AM |
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Ken--- in my opinion, and the reason that I fit your description, is that I believe the old Canadian rule "penalized" only the LEADER. If that person
was in the lead, they had a disadvantage. The reason I like the new German version is that EVERYONE is potentially "penalized" and forced to make an
uneven bid. For example, in a 5 person game, 10 hands, everyone is then forced twice to make an uneven bid, whether they like it or not.
The old Canadian rule, in my opinion, was detrimental to players who were winning. The new German rule is not detrimental to anyone, as everyone has
to deal with it, not just the person who has done well prior to dealing.
Yes, I understand your logic. However, the original rule did not occur frequently and was intended to do 2 things. (a) provide an
opportunity for the others to come from behind. (b) prevent the leader from coasting to a victory on the last hand by making an even bid. Note that
the leader was never forced to make an almost impossible bid because he could always bid zero. Even if all that was held was a Wizard and could not
bid 1, the wizard could always be dumped on another wizard.
In the German game 'everyone has to deal with it' provides no rationale for the rule's existence. Wizard is designed to encourage skill over luck. The
German rule forces players to make bids that they would never make if they were simply bidding normally. e.g. In hand number 2 and all of the other
players bidding zero, and the last bidder has 2 Wizards, or a Wizard and an Ace of Trump the bid cannot be 2. Illogical and unfair.
i.e. I really do not want to 'punish' anyone.
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aniram
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| posted on 9/9/2020 at 05:55 PM |
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Canadian rule
My personal feeling is that CR reeks of socialism. Yep, let's penalize the person winning !
I also find even bids not as exciting as forced uneven bids. Sure, if one has blue cards, (Wizards and Jesters,) even bids can be great fun because
of the set potential.
German Rule Wizard
Always having to keep in mind that at least one player is guaranteed to NOT to make their bid gives me an extra adrenaline rush!
German rule is like playing Musical Chairs every single round. Am I quick enough to land on a chair (make my bid) , and if not, does it behoove me to
knock down multiple chairs or a single, targeted chair?
Because bids can't ever be even, I think it makes it easier, if needed, to be more disruptive.
Guaranteed fun suspense, even when dealt a mediocre hand, thanks to German rule !!
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rwbhab
Mood: happy http://ww |
| posted on 7/10/2020 at 09:01 PM |
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Leave the game as it is. If people want to have forced uneven bid, then play the German game. 
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Plato67
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| posted on 8/10/2020 at 02:38 AM |
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We have ALWAYS played uneven bids for EVERY hand.
Cut-throat.
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navalon
Mood: Hopeful |
 posted on 10/10/2020 at 05:50 AM |
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Make an option to "force" uneven bids with regular cards
The German Game cards are difficult to read for many (colors hard to see). Could there be an OPTION in a REGULAR GAME (non German) to have "forced
un-even bid" as in German version?
So: where you can choose options to have "hidden bid" "delayed reveal" etc, there could be a choice to have "forced uneven bid".
What do you think?
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Joe McD
Mood: happy curmudgeo |
| posted on 28/10/2020 at 01:00 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by navalon
The German Game cards are difficult to read for many (colors hard to see). Could there be an OPTION in a REGULAR GAME (non German) to have "forced
un-even bid" as in German version?
So: where you can choose options to have "hidden bid" "delayed reveal" etc, there could be a choice to have "forced uneven bid".
What do you think?
I agree with Navalon - I'd play more German games, if it was with "regular" cards.
I haven't found settings that I like for the cards in the German game; but I like the no even bid rule.
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